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Old 10-17-2006, 06:55 PM
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Home Preparedness/Food storage

The first step in being prepared is knowing what you need to be prepared for. What kind of emergency can happen where you live? From Fires to earthquakes to a car collision even the loss of an income. There is a way to be prepared for all of these things. You must discuss each possible scenario with your family and assign responsibilities in the event one of these emergencies should occur.

The next step is to have a plan. Where will you meet? Who will you call? Each emergency will be different. Don’t lose track of a family member because you did not have a plan intact. In the event of a natural disaster have an out of town family member you can all call as a base if you are unable to contact each other.

It is also important to learn about when to turn off water, power and gas. How to use a fire extinguisher that should be stored in your home. Take the time to learn and review the emergency plans for places of work and school.

Remember to keep your supplies stocked. Most food and water should be rotated or replaced every 6 months. You should keep at MINIMUM a three-day supply. This is also the same time you should check the batteries in your smoke detectors. (For more information on what to stock see bottom of the page.)

Make emergency phone number cards for each family member to have and one in a place everyone is aware of. Also don’t forget to practice your routine. Even try living on of your food supply for a week. This will help you realize what your supply is missing. It is a great tool!

Below you will find the list of what is necessary in a basic Food Storage.

Water: Store in plastic containers. 1 gallon per person per day.
Canned Juices:
Canned Meat & Meals:
High Energy Protein Bars:
Dry Milk:
Sugars and Honey:
Staples: Baking Soda, Baking Powder, Herbs and Spices, Salt, Vinegar, Yeast
Infant Formula:

A complete First Aid Kit for your home and car should include:

adhesive bandages, various sizes
5" x 9" sterile dressing.
conforming roller gauze bandage.
triangular bandages.
3 x 3 sterile gauze pads.
4 x 4 sterile gauze pads.
roll 3" cohesive bandage.
germicidal hand wipes or waterless alcohol-based hand sanitizer.
antiseptic wipes.
pair large medical grade non-latex gloves.
Adhesive tape, 2" width.
Anti-bacterial ointment.
Cold pack.
Scissors (small, personal).
CPR breathing barrier, such as a face shield.
Aspirin or non-aspirin pain reliever
Anti-diarrhea medication
Antacid (for stomach upset)
Syrup of Ipecac (use to induce vomiting if advised by the Poison Control Center)
Activated charcoal (use if advised by the Poison Control Center)

Other Supplies:

Mess kits, or paper cups, plates, and plastic utensils
Emergency preparedness manual
Battery-operated radio and extra batteries
Flashlight and extra batteries
Cash or traveler's checks, change
Non-electric can opener, utility knife
Fire extinguisher: small canister ABC type
Matches in a waterproof container
Aluminum foil
Plastic storage containers
Signal flare
Paper, pencil
Needles, thread
Medicine dropper
Shut-off wrench, to turn off household gas and water
Plastic sheeting
Sanitation Items
Clothing and Bedding at least one change per person
Map of the area (for locating shelters)

On a final note it is important to keep important family documents in a water and fire proof container.
always have HOPE!!!
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Old 08-20-2007, 07:03 PM
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Default Shelf life of foods

Shelf life of foods and other items- How long to keep things on the shelf and other tips.

Canned Goods:


Other items:

Hormel.com - for many different food groups not just Hormel Products

How to determine the shelf life of foods -

Kroger brand foods - How to read codes and tell Exp dates

Dept of Health Services - guidelines - charts with expiration guidelines of all foods

Cupboard storage chart - at bottom of this webpage This is a really good chart and is easily printed off to keep in your cupboards.

Dehydrated foods - how long to store

Shelf life of Pet Foods

Home canned foods



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“Use by,” “best if used by,“ or “quality assurance” date:
The last date the product is likely to be at peak flavor and quality. One of these dates is often placed on foods such as cereal, which may decline in flavor and quality. It doesn't mean the food is unsafe after that date.

“Sell by” or “pull”:
An indication, to the retailer, of the last day on which a product should be sold. It takes into account time for the food to be stored and used at home. You should buy it before the date, but don't have to use it by then. You should be able to use milk, say, for up to about seven days after the sell-by date.

Pack or package date:
The date the food--fresh meat, for example--was packed or processed. Consumers can tell which package is fresher and choose that one. A pack date isn't an indication of safety.

For most foods, this indicates the last date on which they should be eaten or used. Eggs are an exception: If you buy federally graded eggs before the expiration date (which must be no more than 30 days from when they were put in the carton), you should be able to use them safely for the next 3 to 5 weeks.

“Born on”:
Initiated by Anheuser-Busch, it's supposed to let buyers choose the freshest beer. According to the company, its beer is freshest and tastes best within 110 days from the born-on date.

Coded date:
A series of letters or numbers or both used by the manufacturer to track foods across state lines and, if necessary, recall them. The code isn't meant as a use-by date.

Other words to the wise:
As a rule, high-acid canned foods such as tomatoes can be stored on the shelf for 12 to 18 months; properly stored low-acid canned foods such as meat, fish, and most vegetables will keep 2 to 5 years. Don't use a can that's bulging. If perishable foods are packaged and frozen properly, they will be safe to eat after the expiration date, although the food may suffer freezer burn if it's stored for a long time. And if a food bears a date without words? Unfortunately, you'll have to guess what it means.

Walton Feed/Rainy Day Foods - canned. (800)847-0465
New Code as of Sep 98
CODE:You'll find 2ea 5 digit numbers on top of the can. The first number of 5 digits contains the internal code for product and batch number. The 2nd 5 digit number contains the date. The first three numbers is the day of the year. The last two digits reflect the year.
Example: 09899=98th day of the 99th year or 5 Apr 99.
SHELF LIFE: See our storage life of foods page.

Old Code Before Sep 98
Code: There's a 5 digit number on top of the can. The first two numbers are a code for the food, the 3rd number is the year and the last two numbers are the month. Example: 47210=Oct 92; 59501=Jan 95
SHELF LIFE: See our storage life of foods page.

Bluebird Orange Juice - canned (800)237-7805
CODE: Write words...
"Chainstore". Under each letter, put a number...
1234567890 This decifers the code. If the code reads ECCHO then the
date = 01/12/98.
SHELF LIFE: 2 years
American Fare Canola oil (K-mart) (800)842-7886
CODE: On a code of139C8, first 3 digits are Julian date. The C is the mfg plant. Last number is the year..
SHELF LIFE:: 1 year. If kept longer, might be okay, but check for odor
Bush's Baked Beans (1-423-588-7685)
CODE will indicate the date the food was packed.
Example: 9108A (translated: September 10, 1998)
9 = month = September
10 = day = 10th
8 = year = 1998
A = plant information
SHELF LIFE: Product (unopened is good for 2 years from the packing date (i.e., September 10, 2001)
Capri Sun (800)227-7478 Capri Sun - Juice in pouches
CODE: First digit is the year (8 = 1998). Next three digits is the Julian date.
SHELF LIFE:: 18 months
Comstock Apples in can (800)270-2743
CODE: On second line, first digit is plant, middle 3 are Julian day of year. The next number is year, then 24 hour time.
SHELF LIFE:: 2-3 years
Del Monte (1-800-543-3090)
CODE will indicate date the food was packed.
Example: 8200V4120 (translated: July 19, 1998)

8 = year = 1998
200 = the 200th day in 1998 = July 19
V2140 = plant information
SHELF LIFE: Product (unopened) is good for 2 years from packing date (i.e., July 19, 2000)

Dole canned juice (800)232-5942
SHELF LIFE:: 2 - 3 years
Fleischman's Yeast (800)777-4959
Date is stamped. If you use it past the stamped date, you must first "PROOF" it. Proof it by bringing water to the temperature in the instructions on the back. Stir in 1 tsp of sugar and one packet of yeast. After five minutes it should begin to bubble. At the end of 10 minutes, it should have a rounded crown of foam on it. If this happens, yeast is active. (Be sure to deduct the water from your recipe)
Freshlike (1-920-435-5300)
CODE will indicate the date the food was packed.
Example: 7M831 (translated: August 31, 1997)

7 = year = 1997
M = plant
8 = month = August
31 = day of the month = 31
SHELF LIFE: Product (unopened) is good for 2 years from the packing date (i.e., August 31, 1999)
Green Giant Vegetables (800)998-9996
CODE: First letter is year, next is month, then year.
SHELF LIFE:: Beans 2 yrs. Corn/peas 3 yrs. Mushroms-4 yr
Hershey (1-800-468-1714)
CODE will indicate expiration date.
Example: 9ID (translated: September 1999)
9 = year = 1999
I = month (A-L) = September

Joan of Arc Beans
CODE: First letter is year, next is month, then year.
SHELF LIFE:: 3 years.
Kraft Foods - Dream Whip www.kraftfoods.com
CODE: First number is year, next three numbers is Julian day of year.
SHELF LIFE:: 2 years.
Libby Vegetables (315)926-3225
CODE: 2nd digit is year, first letter is month, third digit is plant. Next 2 numbers is day of month
SHELF LIFE:: 2 years for most. Sauerkraut 18 months
Lipton Ragu pasta sauce in jar (800)328-7248
CODE: On first line the last four numbers are the Julian day and last number is year.
SHELF LIFE:: 2 years
Mariani Prunes (Sold at B.J.'s club)
CODE: First number is year, next three are Julian calendar.
SHELF LIFE:: 12 months.
Motts Apple juice & Apple Sauce in a glass jar (800)426-4891
CODE: After WA, first number is year, second two are month, next two are day.
SHELF LIFE:: One year
Nabisco Snackwells Granola Bars (800)622-4726
CODE: First number is year, next three are day.
SHELF LIFE:: 6-8 months
Nally Chili
Code: 81898 is Aug 18, 1998
Shelf Life: 24 Months from date on the can.
Nat'l Fruit Product Co. Whitehouse Apple juice (800)551-5167
CODE: First letter is plant, Next number is year, Next letter is product, Next 2 are day, then shift.
SHELF LIFE:: 2 years
Nestle Carnation or Contadina Products First letter is year, next is month, then year.
Nestle Juicy Juice (800)637-8532
CODE: First number is the year, next three are Julian calendar day
SHELF LIFE:: 14 mo for most. Strawberry - 8 months
Nestle Libby Nectar juice in a can (800)637-8532
CODE: First number is the year, next three are Julian calendar day.
SHELF LIFE:: Apricot - 24 mo. Peach - 24 mo. Pear - 24 mo. Strawbry - 6 mo. Papaya - 12 mo.

Peter Pan Peanut Butter (1-800-222-7370)
CODE will indicate the date the food was packed.
Example: D87F2 (translated: July 1998)
D = plant
8 = year = 1998
7 = month = July
F2 = plant information
SHELF LIFE: Product (unopened) is good for 1 year from the packing date (i.e., July 1999)
Planters Peanuts (1-800-622-4726)
CODE will indicate expiration date.
Example: 0209A4 (translated: July 27, 2000)
0 = year = 2000
209 = 209th day of 2000 = July 27
A4 = plant information

Princella (1-800-234-ALLEN)
Code will indicate the date the food was packed.
Example: 82003 (translated: July 19, 1998)

8 = year = 1998
200 = 200th day of 1998 = July 19
3 = the shift the food was packed
SHELF LIFE: Product (unopened) is good 2 years from the packing date (i.e., July 19, 2000)

Proctor & Gamble Criso & Butter flavor Crisco (800)543-7276

CODE: Code on both: First number is year. Next three are Julian calendar.
SHELF LIFE:: Reg crisco in can has indefinite shelf life. Should be used within 12 months of opening.
**Butter flavor has a shelf life of 18 months, to be used within 6-12 months of opening.
Progresso Black Beans (800)200-9377
CODE: First letter is month, Next number is year, next letter is mfg plant, next two numbers, day of month. L7N26 = 12/26/97
SHELF LIFE:: 2 years
Progresso Soups (800)200-9377
CODE: First letter is month, Next number is year, next letter is mfg plant, next two numbers, day of month. L7N26 = 12/26/97
SHELF LIFE:: 3 years

Publix Cereal, boxed. Date printed on box is "pull date"
SHELF LIFE:: 12-18 months
Publix Coffee, instant Has "best if used by" date stamped on label
SHELF LIFE:: 1 year

Publix Coffee, regular brick
CODE: First 3 digits are Julian date, 4th is year.
SHELF LIFE:: 1 year

Publix Evaporated milk (800)242-1227
CODE: First digit year, next 3 is Julian date
SHELF LIFE:: 18-24 mo

Publix Jelly/Jam/Choc Syrup Has "best if used by" date stamped on label
SHELF LIFE:: 1 year

Publix Nondairy Creamer Has "best if used by" date stamped on label
SHELF LIFE:: 12 mo

Publix Peanut Butter Has "best if used by" date stamped on label
SHELF LIFE:: 1 year

Publix Veggies in can (305)652-2411, ask for Annette Vaughn at X3870
CODE: First dig is year, 2nd is month. The mo is represented by a number from Jan to Sept. For Oct, Nov, or Dec, it is represented by a O, N, or D
SHELF LIFE:: 2 years

Skippy Peanut Butter
CODE: First digit is month, next two the day, letter is mfg plant, and last number is year.
SHELF LIFE:: 2 years
Speas Apple Juice (1-717-677-8181)
1st line - product code
2nd line - packing information
Example: MKY17D (translated: November 17, 1997)
M = plant
K = month (A-L) = November
Y = fiscal year = 1997
L = 7/1/1998 to 6/30/1999
U = 7/1/1994 to 6/30/1995
C = 7/1/1995 to 6/30/1996
K = 7/1/1996 to 6/30/1997
Y = 7/1/1997 to 6/30/1998
(On July 1, 1999, the letter U will change to 7/1/1999 to 6/30/2000)
17 = calendar day = 17th
D = unknown
SHELF LIFE: Product (unopened) is good for 1 year from packing date (i.e., December 17, 1998)

Starkist Tuna (800)252-1587 www.starkist.com
CODE: Last letter on second row is year, with G= 1998, F=1997, E=1996. Three numbers before that are Julian calendar day
SHELF LIFE:: 4-6 years
Sweet Sue Chicken & Dumplings and Chicken Noodle (800)633-3294
CODE: On 1st line - last # is year. On 2nd line - first 2 numbers are the month, next 2 numbers are day.
SHELF LIFE:: 2 years
Uncle Ben's (1-800-548-6253)
CODE will indicate the date the food was packed.
Example: 823AB (translated: June 1, 1998)
8 = year = 1998
23 = 23rd week of 1998 = week of June 1
AB = plant information
SELF LIFE Product (unopened) is good for 2 years from the packing date (i.e., June 1, 2000)
Welches Grape Juice - Plastic bottle.(800)240-6870
CODE: First number is year, letter is manufacturing plant, next 2 numbers are day of month, next letter is month A=Jan, B=Feb, etc.
SHELF LIFE:: One year

Spring and Fall is a good time to Rotate your foodstorage!!!!

Check the dates on your stock pile and rotate.

Some stores have a caselot sale this week so Re-Stock your shelves!!

Monitor the usage of your canned vegies and fruits to see how much you will need to restock during the Fall months when the case lot sales are offered.

Use up your older cake mixes, pasta and other prepared mixes. You don't want them to go stale or have weevils invade your pantry.


Baby Formula Information

Parent's Choice brand from Walmart > http://www.parentschoiceformula.com/faq-use.aspx

Similac > http://welcomeaddition.com/feedingba...eedingfaq.aspx

Enfamil > http://www.enfamil.com/app/iwp/Conte...g_Instructions

Helpful Laundry Tip:
How can I remove formula stains?

Soak the stained garment in cold water as soon as possible. We’ve found that Axion® or Biz® "prewashes" or the liquid detergent ERA® PLUS are often effective.*

Although we cannot be sure what caused the stain, it may have been due to the iron in the infant formula. If so, we suggest you try Super Iron Out®, an iron-removing product available at grocery, discount and hardware stores. If you cannot find it in your area, contact Iron-Out Inc. at 1-888-476-6688.

Don't use bleach; bleaching will only "set" iron stains.

* Axion, Biz, ERA and Super Iron Out are registered trademarks of companies other than Ross Products Division, Abbott Laboratories.
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Old 11-09-2007, 05:56 PM
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Industrial grade fruit juice barrels for water storage. About 55 gallons. Purchase 2 or more for free delivery in Utah County. Call 801-687-0748 for questions or to order. No shipping available.

I bought 3 of these and they are fantastic for the price.

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Default where can I get gamma lids cheap?

I'm doing our 72 hour kits in 5 gallon buckets and I want the gamma lids to put on them for ease. They're 8.99 a lid at Maceys. Does anyone know where I can get them cheaper. I need 4 and that's just more than I want to pay. Thanks.
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Default good place to buy duct tape?

I was going to stock up on duct tape, for emergencies and put in kits. Does anyone know a good/best place to buy some in Utah?
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Old 11-27-2007, 01:53 AM
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Default Food Storage Weekly Buying Guide (52 week Plan)

Food Storage Weekly Buying Guide (52 week Plan)
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Important points in acquiring food storage:
1. Decide what your priorities are.
2. Devise a plan to acquire something for your storage each week.
3. Store properly and safely.
4. Rotate your storage. Use and replenish your storage regularly.

Week 1: NUTS Drug stores have Christmas sales. 2 lbs per person. Dry roasted ones store the best. Freeze bagged ones.
Week 2: CLEANING SUPPLIES Detergent 156 loads per person, Bleach 1 gal per person, Cleanser.
Week 3: MEDICINE CHEST Feminine Products, Pepto Bismal, Vicks, Cough Drops, Cough Syrup, Tylenol, Calamine Lotion, Kaopectate, Ipecac, Sunscreen Dispose of all outdated medications.
Week 4: FIRST AID SUPPLIES Band-Aids, Antibiotic Ointment, Ace Bandages, Steri-strips, etc.
Week 5: PERSONAL PRODUCTS Soap, Deodorant, toilet paper at least one roll per week. Shampoo, lotion, hand soap, 15 per person etc.
Week 6: PEANUT BUTTER 10 lbs per person (stores for a year or more)
Week 7: SOLID SHORTENING less expensive than oil. 12 lbs per person. Be sure and rotate. Will last several years.
Week 8: JUICES Avoid watered products. Get 100% juice. (lemon, orange, pineapple etc.)
Week 9: PERSONAL GROOMING Toothpaste, floss (important) razors, shaving cream. Consider your family needs. (you can always brush with baking soda)
Week 10: MIXES Cakes, pancakes, muffins, Bisquick etc. Bisquick stores best in the freezer or it gets bugs. You need an annual total of 300 lbs of grain products per person.
Week 11: SPICES AND HERBS Think of what you use most often. Salt (NOT Plain you need the iodized kind) pepper, cinnamon, bay leaves. Look for bargains .
Week 12: RICE Secure 10, 15, 20 lbs. White stores best but is not as nutritious. I find brown gets bugs. Counts towards grain total.
Week 13: FIRST AID Gauze patches, swabs, cotton balls, first aid tape etc. Old fashioned Kotex is good for wounds. Sanitary napkins with adhesive do not store well.
Week 14: PASTA 5 lbs. Get other kinds besides spaghetti. I have found that spaghetti does not store well. Counts towards grain total.
Week 15: DRY MILK 40 oz. will make 5 gallons . Get what you family needs. 100 lbs per person per year. Stores well.
Week 16: SEWING KIT Thread, pins, needles, buttons (cut off of old clothes) snaps, zippers, tape measure, scissors. Consider your family's needs.
Week 17: READY DINNERS Ravioli, Pasta, Oriental, Boxed, Canned, Frozen. Buy what your family will eat.
Week 18: FLOUR 50 lbs per person (put in freezer or it will get bugs) Be sure and rotate. Counts towards grain requirement.
Week 19: SOUP Dry or canned soup, don't forget crackers.
Week 20: JELLO Jello gelatin and Pudding Mixes
Week 21: GARDEN SEEDS Radishes are great in an emergency. They grow fast, full of vitamins and minerals, and full of water. Buy locally if you haven't ordered yet. Here is an address of seed company that will send you there catalog free if you send a self addressed envelope with a couple of stamps. Territorial Seeds P.O. Box 157 Cottage Grove Ore. 97424 They have the kind of seed you can store. or http://www.johnnyseeds.com
Week 22: SAFETY WEEK A length of cord or twine. Light rope. Flashlight and batteries, (dated)
Week 23: CHEESE Whole 5 lbs, or grate and freeze for casseroles or soup.
Week 24: PAPER PRODUCTS Paper towels, Aluminum foil, garbage bags, freezer bags, etc.
Week 25: CONDIMENTS Mustard, catsup, mayo, relish, Worcestershire.
Week 26: BEDDING Watch for White Sales. Buy a new thermo blanket.
Week 27: JAMS AND JELLIES Sure-Jell, Certo, Parafin, etc. Or buy the jams and jellies. Be sure you have supply of canning jars. Not large mouth, and lids and seals.
Week 28: WATER Fill those water jugs. Use plain Clorox not fresh scent.
Week 29: CANNED MILK Look in Dec. 1989 Ensign for ideas for use. 100 lbs per person.
Week 30: CANNED GOODS Be sure and rotate. We like sardines (small ones). They are rich in protein and cheap.
Week 31: SCHOOL SUPPLIES Back to School Sales. Paper , pencils, journals, envelopes, postage stamps, etc. (Great Stocking Stuffers)
Week 32: STAPLES Baking powder, soda, corn starch, Baking Soda, 2 lbs per person of each item except soda. Buy 3 lbs per person.
Week 33: TOMATOES Juice, whole, sauce, paste, Salsa. Buy or make it. Counts as part of vegetables.
Week 34: CANNED FRUIT 80 quarts per person. Buy or can it yourself.
Week 35: SUGAR 100 lbs per person. Buy an extra 25 lbs.
Week 36: VEGETABLES 150 lbs per person per year. Can or freeze from garden or purchased fresh, or buy canned.
Week 37: BEANS Dry bean, peas, legumes, 100 lbs per person.
Week 38: SWEETNERS Honey, Karo, Molasses, etc. Counts towards sugars.
Week 39: CANNED MEATS Tuna (be sure and rotate) Spam, dried beef , go for 10 cans.
Week 40: IODIZED SALT 10 or more canisters. It seasons & preserves. In a pinch it can be used as a toothpaste or de-icer. Get canning salt for canning.
Week 41: VINEGAR l (or more) gallons. It is a great cleaner too. For cleaning you need white.
Week 42: CANNED SOUP Buy soup when it is on sale. Soup counts towards vegetables.
Week 43: APPLES Do something with all those apples. Pie, applesauce, juice, canned apples with sugar are good.
Week 44: HARD CANDY On sale after Halloween. Leftovers will make a good addition to your 72 hour emergency kits.
Week 45: VITAMINS 365 vitamins per person. Get extra C and calcium with Vitamin D
Week 46: TREATS FOR BAKING Cocoa, coconut (gets old) nuts ( store in fridge gets rancid) chocolate chips.
Week 47: GRAINS Rolled Oats, Corn Meal (In fridge) Cream of wheat. (Rotate this, does not store.) Counts as grain. There is an oats you can buy at health food store that does store. I think it is scotch oats. Check and see.
Week 48: SUGARS Brown and white, powdered. 100 lbs per person total
Week 49: OILS Vegetable and olive oils. Get a good quality. 12 lbs per person.
Week 50: CANDLES AND MATCHES Put in a sturdy box (preferably fireproof) and in a cool place you can locate in dark.
Week 51: POPCORN Go for big twelve pound bags. Counts toward grains.
Week 52 : Merry Christmas You have given yourself a great gift security.
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Does anyone know a good place to buy large amounts of bouillion? I think this is going to be an important food storage item. We will need flavor for our food. Costco used to sell it in fairly large containers but they don't anymore and I am thinking like #10 can size. Thanks in advance.
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I purchased some a few months ago at Maceys in Pleasant Grove or right near there...maybe it was all the way into American Fork.
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Red face bouillion?

bouillion? How long does that keep?
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It depends on which type you store.

Granular types like Wyler's brand is very stable and can keep for 2-3 years if sealed tight and in the correct environment.

Fatty types that are made from the rendered fat products or that have fat/oils added to them, are not very shelf stable. The fats go rancid.
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